Advise and consent

Advise and consent

Police chief says he’d welcome a citizen advisory, not oversight board   

By André Coleman 12/26/2013

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Pasadena Police Chief Phillip Sanchez told the Pasadena Weekly that he would support a citizen advisory committee, such as the one recently suggested by City Councilwoman Jacque Robinson.

“I have been talking with my staff about an advisory committee for two years,” said Sanchez, who took over as chief in 2010. 

Sanchez has said he does not support a proposal by Councilman John Kennedy for the creation of a police oversight board, one with possible legal authority over the department. But he would welcome citizen advice on police-related issues.

“It has to have meaning and be purposeful,” Sanchez said of such a panel. “I have talked to my staff about what it would look like and who would be invited to the table and who it would be. Those are issues that need to be vetted. I am still in the process of doing that.”

Robinson’s idea comes on the heels of a Pasadena Weekly report which found the City Council’s four-member Public Safety Committee had canceled 44 scheduled meetings between 2010 and 2012. City Council members have said that they would not support a police oversight board like the one advocated by Kennedy because that is the function of the Public Safety Committee. Most of the missed meetings occurred under the chairmanship of Councilman Steve Madison. Robinson now chairs the committee, which did not miss a scheduled meeting in 2013. 

Kennedy and Councilman Gene Masuda are the council’s other committee members.
On Dec. 16, Robinson said she supported an advisory committee to work with both the Police Department and the Public Safety Committee during and after public safety incidents that have a significant impact on the community.

“I did not say oversight,” Robinson clarified. “In short, I said, clearly there is a disconnect between the information that has flowed from the Police Department and Public Safety Committee and City Council. A citizen advisory committee — for lack of a better term — could provide an avenue for effective communication between the city and the chief and department on an ongoing basis, not just when there is an officer-involved shooting.

“At this point in time it is just an idea that I am open to,” said Robinson, who also serves in the largely ceremonial role of vice mayor. “I have not fully vetted nor suggested guidelines for membership or duties. It is an ongoing discussion for the coming weeks and months.”  


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Let's get this right.....Sanchez has been "thinking about such an idea for 2 years". Are you kidding me? REALLY! This guy is an idiot. Not only should it not take such an incredible timeline to make a move on such an idea, don't add to the problem of admitting to your own inaction. Pull the trigger you dummy. Make a decesion. That's what your paid to do.

Is there any wonder why the Office of Independent Review has not submitted a report on the shooting of the young, unarmed African Amercan man from two years ago.

Where is the accountability?

posted by Paul G on 12/26/13 @ 08:45 p.m.

What's the difference between an "Advisory Committee," and an Oversight Board? Like Schrodinger's Cat, an Advisory Committee can be shut away in some meeting room and nobody will ever know again whether its dead or alive ... on the other hand, an Oversight Board does have (no matter how weak) the power to commit (official) investigations.

Anyhow, I just love it when PD public "servants" like Chief Sanchez implicitly insists that the general public just STFU and stay hell out of his way ... and would you like to have another cup of tyrant with that surplus plate of jackboot?


posted by DanD on 12/27/13 @ 05:24 p.m.



posted by DanD on 12/27/13 @ 05:26 p.m.

Dan really? An oversight board is going to conduct investigations? That would be fun to watch. Dan, since you seem to know so much, I suggest you push aside the TV tray, pry yourself out of your lazy-boy, climb over the stack of old news papers, fill out an application, climb a six foot wall and join a police department and make a difference. Better yet, do it as an undercover agent for the PW, then break it to the world about all the corruption you found. I can't wait to see your piece on 60 minutes.

posted by russmen626 on 12/27/13 @ 05:49 p.m.

... and the day is not complete without some verbal vomit driviling from the keyboard of the PW's own ad-hominem posting, LE baton-sucking troll, in the guise of russmen626.

Tell us all russ-troll, which LE gang do you molest little children for?


posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 09:42 a.m.
posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 09:46 a.m.

Cops just wanna' have fun ...


posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 10:13 a.m.

The PPD don't need (other people) to have Constitutional Rights ~


posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 10:19 a.m.

Catching up with the LE gangbangers.


posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 10:23 a.m.
posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 11:16 a.m.

Gezz Dandy, look at all these links you've provided us with. Is this where you get your news from? You may as well be getting all your world news from the Onion.

posted by russmen626 on 12/29/13 @ 06:46 p.m.

I'm at least providing popular links of news facts that verify my point of view, you on the other hand, display only your uneducated stupidity with vicious ad-hominem attacks. You lie as obvious and easily as a traffic-court cop.

It seems that you russ-troll, are living an Onion existence as a legend in your own mind.


posted by DanD on 12/29/13 @ 07:37 p.m.

Dandy, pull the tinfoil off your windows and get some fresh air, sounds like you need it. Better yet, go sniff some glue at one of the float builds.

posted by russmen626 on 12/29/13 @ 10:44 p.m.

To you russ-troll, vicious cop-crime against (even) the (ostensibly innocent) "lower-classes" is the price we all should feel happy to pay for the questionable "security" that them same badge-dangling gangbangers allegedly produce. Indeed however, your brand of LE propaganda certainly does not put the cop-class in a better light.

You display yourself russ-troll, as a tiny-minded bully and a coward. Your kind of police-state mind-set does not sit well with that part of America that wants nothing to do with tyrants.

So go ahead, keyboard some more crap ... continue to prove my point about how police departments have become nothing more than the government's property-thieving, organized crooks.



posted by DanD on 12/31/13 @ 08:29 a.m.

If you can't beat them, (not that I couldn't), join them. Here you go Dandy.

posted by russmen626 on 12/31/13 @ 07:54 p.m.
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